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Re: problem with PK fit in a PKPD model

From: Leonid Gibiansky <LGibiansky>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:35:07 -0400

Fatemeh,
It is better to start with the sequential fit: first fit PK (you seems
to indicate that you can get a good fit), then fix individual PK
parameters and use the PK individual predictions to drive the PK-PD
part. If and when you get the good PK-PD model, you can try to free the
PK part to get simultaneous fit.

 From your description it looks like incorrect PD affects your PK fit.
You need to correct PD model but it is difficult to do when your PK is
biased. It will be easier when you have PK fixed to correct values: the
bias will shift to PD part that can be explored graphically and using
various PK-PD models.

Leonid

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President, QuantPharm LLC
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Fatemeh Akhlaghi, PhD wrote:
> Dear NMusers group:
>
> I am puzzled by the result of a NONMEM analysis I am working on. I have
> modeled plasma conc versus effect data using ADVAN5 (simultaneous link,
> comp3=effect) and can get a reasonable fit for the PD but the PK IPRED versus
> observed plot has a very unusual S-shape. Fitting the same plasma conc
> independently using ADVAN3 with the same error structure does not produce such
> pattern. I log transform the plasma concentration data to obtain a better PK
> fit. Also I have built a non-linear binding equation into the error structure
> of the PKPD model. I have included the code below. Do you know what is
> wrong?
>
> Many thanks in advance and I look forward to hear from you.
>
>
> Fatemeh Akhlaghi
>
>
> $PROBLEM
> ;MODEL DESC:PKPDLINKWITH BINDING PARAMETERS
> ;PROJECT NAME: EXAMPLE1
> ;PROJECT ID: PKPDLINK MODEL
> ; MODEL: C = BIEXP; CE = C*KEO.EXP(-KEO.T); E = SIGM_EMX(CE)
> ; NOTE: MAY BE MORE ETAS HERE THAN REASONABLE
> ; NOTE: MODEL FOR C CAN BE MORE COMPLEX BY ADDING CMPTS
> ;
> ; THE DATA FILE CONTAINS BOTH CP AND EFFECT OBSERVATIONS.
> ; WHEN DV IS A CP OBSERVATION, CMT = 1 (OR 0),
> ; WHEN DV IS AN EFFECT OBSERVATION, CMT =2.
>
> $DATA ..\PKPDLINK1ADDDOSE.CSV IGNORE=C
> $INPUT ID OCC TIME AMT DV DV1 MDV CMT EVID WT TPRO ALB DOSE HT SEX AST TBIL
> UREA CREA WBC DROP=RBC
> $SUBROUTINES ADVAN=5
> $MODEL
> COMP=(CENTRAL,DEFDOSE,DEFOBS)
> COMP=PERIPH
> COMP=EFFECT
> $PK
> K10=THETA(1)
> TVK12=THETA(2)
> K12=TVK12*EXP(ETA(1))
> K13= .001*K10 ; TRIVIAL LOSS TO EFFECT COMPT
> K21=THETA(3)
> TVS1=THETA(4)
> S1=TVS1 ; V1 FOR DRUG
> K30=THETA(5) ; KEO
> E0=THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(2))
> EMAX=THETA(7)
> C50=THETA(8)*EXP(ETA(3))
> HILL=THETA(9)
> TVBMAX=THETA(10)*EXP(ETA(4))
> BMAX=TVBMAX
> KD=THETA(11)
> KNS=THETA(12)
> W=THETA(13)
> S3=S1*K13/K30 ; PRESERVES CESS = CPSS
>
> $ERROR
> FLAG=0
> IF(AMT.GT.0) FLAG=1 ;DOSING RECORD ONLY
>
> CP1=1
> IF(F.NE.0) CP1=F
>
> LNCP=LOG(CP1+FLAG) ;TRANFORM THE PREDICTION TO THE LOG OF PRED
>
> Y1=LNCP+W*ERR(1)
>
> CP=0
> IF(LNCP.GT.-4) CP=EXP(LNCP)
>
> CB=HT*((CP*BMAX/(CP+KD))+KNS*CP)+CP*(1-HT)
> E=E0*(1-(EMAX*(CB**HILL))/((C50**HILL)+(CB**HILL)))
> Y2=E+E*(ERR(2))+ERR(3)
>
> Q=1
> IF(CMT.EQ.2) Q=0 ; CMT = 3 = EFFECT OBS
> Y=Q*Y1+(1-Q)*Y2
> F1=Q*LNCP+(1-Q)*E
>
> IPRE=F1
>
> DEL=0
> IF(IPRE.EQ.0) DEL=1
> W=IPRE+DEL
> IRES=IPRE-DV
> IWRES=IRES/W
>
> $THETA (0.01,0.5,1) ;K10 1
> $THETA (0.1,1,2) ;K12 2
> $THETA (0.01,0.05,0.5) ;K21 3
> $THETA (0.1,4,10) ;V1 OR S1 4
> $THETA (0.1,0.5,) ;K30 5
> $THETA (0.1,0.2,) ;E0 6
> $THETA (0.01,0.1,) ;EMAX 7
> $THETA (0.1,150,) ;EC50 8
> $THETA (2,4,6) ;HILL 9
> $THETA (200,250,350) ;BMAX 10
> $THETA (0.1,0.6,12) ;KD 11
> $THETA (0.01,0.1,2) ;KNS 12
> $THETA (0.001,0.1,) ;PRO RES ERR 13
>
> $OMEGA BLOCK(3)
> 0.001 ;k12
> 0.0001 0.001 ;e0
> 0.0001 0.0001 0.01 ;ec50
>
> $OMEGA
> 0.2 ;BMAX 4
>
> $SIGMA
> 0.17 ;[A] SIGMA(1,1)
> 0.002 ;[A] SIGMA(2,2)
> 0.0001 ;[A] SIGMA(3,3)
>
> $COV PRINT=E
>
> $ESTIMATION METHOD=1 INTER PRINT=10 MAXEVAL=9999 SIGDIG=6 NOABORT
>
> Fatemeh Akhlaghi, PharmD, PhD
> Associate Professor in Pharmacokinetics
> Biomedical and Pharmaceutical Sciences (BPS)
> University of Rhode Island
> 125 Fogarty Hall, 41 Lower College Road
> Kingston, RI 02881, USA
>
> Phone/Fax: (401) 874 9205/(401) 874 2181
> Email: fatemeh
> Laboratory Website: http://www.uri.edu/pharmacy/faculty/aps/akhlaghi/index
>
>
Received on Fri Jul 25 2008 - 21:35:07 EDT

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